» Picking Up Transmissions: Speculation With Spoilers Options

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Groovy.

Let's hope they draw Ana and Locke into that storyline (Ana as the cop waiting to bring him down... Locke as the mentor)

[pretorian]

It's been only 5 days, let the guy be tempted a little ;)

I don't know if I see Sayid forming a plan to take out the tailaways (or just Ana Lucia), at least not right away, but I definitely could see him a lot less forgiving than Jack will most likely be. I don't see the Tailaways - or AL - going anywhere at the moment, so Jack plays the role of peacemaker trying to get both groups to get along ("live together, die alone" yada yada) and move past AL accidentally (?) shooting Shannon...

I don't wanna, let the retialiation begins. Sayid could handle the grieve but nonsensical nonsense? a man must set his limits! especially when it comes to Jack.

ETA: with Shanon's death, who's gonna have the visions now?

If Ana Lucia is half the woman she seems to be, she'll offer herself for "execution" in a "let my people go" kind of way, if Sayid promise no retaliation againts the tailaways I can see her letting them kill her in exchange of Sharon's life regardless whatever Jack would say.

The visions are most likely to remain with whoever carries the dog around now.

This post has been edited by pretorian: Nov 9, 2005 @ 1:10 pm.

[Brunette]

Is it wrong that despite everything I've read from Kristin, Hercules, Ausiello, et al., that I'm still hoping they're all very carefully planted false rumors and Shannon will be okay after tonight?

(Big puppy dog eyes)

Don't worry. I'm right there with you. Ever since the "Arzt-will-be-a-regular-in-season-two-BOOM!-oops-we-lied" incident, every time I read a spoiler about a death I'm like, "Uh-huh. I'm sure that's exactly what you want me to believe. You brain-bending assholes."

So, yeah, I won't believe it until I see it.

I like a lot of the characters - Kate, Jack, Sayid, Sun, Hurley, Claire - but without Sawyer in the mix, I can see myself drifting away from the show pretty quickly.

Absolutely. I'm already losing interest because of that damn Ana Lucia. And because my time is rapidly being soaked up by those Winchester boys on Supernatural. So if Sawyer goes, I go too.

And about the Kate/Mom spoiler: I predicted this weeks ago. And I agree with Kate's dad being an abusive son of a bitch. Because on this show, everyone's got a daddy issue. And we all know that Kate doesn't like to be left behind. ;)

Edited because spoiler tags are NOT quote tags. :)

This post has been edited by Brunette: Nov 9, 2005 @ 1:14 pm.

[secretagentman]

Here's something interesting and possibly leading....eps. 211 is called " The Hunting Party" and features two guest stars, a wealthy middle aged Italian man and a gorgeous Italian woman who may possibly recur. Hunting humans maybe? Polar bears? Go forth and speculate my friends.

[Haole]

May I say I love you, secretagentman? Thank you!

I have no idea where to start the speculation based on this, but it's great information!

Here's hoping that with this gourgeous Italian woman this will finally be a Sawyer-centric episode!

This post has been edited by Haole: Nov 9, 2005 @ 5:32 pm.

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secretagentman

Dude, you rock.

I'm betting it's a Sayid episode.

[CantThinkUpName]

This week's podcast indicates that this is coming. IIRC, that storyline may come to a head about midseason.

Coming to a head? How about coming to a start. One shot of the statue in Mosmof does not a plotline make.

"The Hunting Party..." is it too early for another Locke-centric episode showing how he actually did become a survivalist instead of learning the awesome plotpoint of once Locke had a girlfriend? I like the idea of it being a Sawyer episode though, his adventures are the only flashbacks I have an interest in seeing.

And about the Kate/Mom spoiler: I predicted this weeks ago. And I agree with Kate's dad being an abusive son of a bitch.

Not to take anything away from you but that is the "Shannon's dead" theory of Kate's original crime.

I like a lot of the characters but without Sawyer in the mix, I can see myself drifting away from the show pretty quickly.

I'm alway drifting away from the show. Bitterness is one thing, boredom is another. The latter is more unforgiveable and the lack of Sawyer (along with the splitting between so many different things each episode) is one of those things making each episode disjointed and seeming skimpy on the action. You need a foil like Sawyer willing to snark about the goings-on. The Lostaways are seeming very dull without their Southern gentleman.

This post has been edited by CantThinkUpName: Nov 9, 2005 @ 5:50 pm.

[EyeSpy]

eps. 211 is called " The Hunting Party" and features two guest stars, a wealthy middle aged Italian man

If there's "Rambaldi" mentioned in the ep anywhere, I won't be able to switch the channel fast enough. Unless of course...

and a gorgeous Italian woman who may possibly recur.

...They get, perhaps, Monica Belucci in the show. I might reconsider, hypothesized "Rambaldi" shout-out or not... but, they'll never be able to get her.

Sayid should have a flashback coming up I'd have to think, he lost his girlfriend in 2.06. Hell, he got a fb during Boone's death, it would make more sense he'd have one somewhere around Shannon's you'd think. Yet from what I can tell Ana Lucifer, Kate and Eko are all getting an ep before him. *sighs*

This post has been edited by EyeSpy: Nov 9, 2005 @ 6:08 pm.

[ggjunkie423]

Put it all together, and I can easily picture Sawyer becoming a casualty near the end of this season.

Yes, but a couple of months ago Sayid was groomed as second most likely to die, and I don't think that's going to happen. A bunch of people on Lost-media. com posted that Locke was going to die based on the "facts" (stuff that Kristen and Ausiello said) and that didn't happen. People speculate all the time about Claire and Charlie, but that isn't going away any time soon. Sawyer's a fan favorite and he has established relationships with the primary castaways, and I would argue that his tailside scenes with Ana Lucia have remained well-balanced with Michael's angst, if not overpowering it.

As far as castaways go, they're seperated into tiers, IMO.

First tier: Island Leaders. Jack, Locke, and Kate. Jack and Locke are the most important people aomng the castaways and the second season has focused mostly on them and their battles over the hatch. Kate is positioned as a leader whether we like it or not.

Second tier: Fan favorites. This is Hurley, Sawyer, and Charlie. They're not essential to the plot, nor are they leaders. But they are enormously popular and will stick around as long as they have big followings.

Third tier: Supporting Characters That Are Useful To The Plot. I place Claire, Sayid,
Walt, and possibly Sun here. Claire's important because of her baby, her connection to the Island mythology (Danielle/Others) and her relationship to Charlie. Sayid is important because of his technical proficiency. Walt is important because of his powers and his connection to The Others. Sun may go in this category because of her medicinal powers.They'll stick around for now, but may die once they've outlived their usefulness.

Fourth tier: Supporting Characters With Established Relationships. The six characters who already had pre-established relationships with each other go here.
Because of those relationships, they were reluctant to seek relationships with other people on the island. We have Boone (dead), Shannon (soon to be dead),
Sun (relationship with Kate and Jack but isolated from most of the castaways for the majority of the time she's been there), Jin (isolated from everyone except Michael and Sun), and Michael (isolated from everyone except Jin and Walt, whose creepiness will probably still be a factor long after Michael dies).

It's kind of weird that the two fourth-tier characters who branched out the msot socially are the ones who got wacked. Boone made a connection with Locke, but he was merely Locke's puppet. Shannen has a connection with Sayid, but he's not terribly important in the scheme of things and their relationship isn't well-explored.
Jin and Michael have connected, but the fact that they're both so low on the totem poldoesn't bode well. And Sun has a connection with both Sun and Jack, but is still pretty isolated.

I think the Jin/Michael relationship is one of my favorite relationships on the show.
They're both people who wanted nothing more than to keep to themselves and get off the island. Michael kind of got drawn into the situation with Sun, and felt protective of her and apprehensive of Jin. All comes out into the open and he and Jin start working together and become friends, even though Jin doesn't speak a word of English. Now Jin seems as anxious to help Michael find Walt as he is to get back to his own wife. The whole thing is a lot more interesting than anything Ana Lucia will ever be a part of.

This post has been edited by ggjunkie423: Nov 9, 2005 @ 7:08 pm.

[Feely]

Third tier: Supporting Characters That Are Useful Tp The Plot. I place Claire, Sayid,
Walt, and possibly Sun here. Claire's important because of her baby, her connection to the Island mythology (Danielle/Others) and her relationship to Charlie. Sayid is important because of his technical proficiency. Walt is important because of his powers and his connection to The Others. Sun may go in this category because of her medicinal powers.They'll stick around for now, but may die once they've outlived their usefulness

I'd add Michael into here. He's basically the only thing carrying on the Others/Walt plotline, so it'd make absolutely zero sense to dump him anytime before they find Walt (which, at this pace, won't be until season 5 with Walt sporting a bad teenage moustache).

[Rychki]

Is it wrong that despite everything I've read from Kristin, Hercules, Ausiello, et al., that I'm still hoping they're all very carefully planted false rumors and Shannon will be okay after tonight?

Nope, although I read an article somewhere that confirms Kristin pretty much stuffed up by 'accidentally' (yeah right) revealing way too much i.e Shannon being killed by AL and Damon found out... yet he's not pissed?

Oh well I personally don't mind as long as Claire, Sawyer, Hurley, Sun & Vincent are all right - I'm sitting pretty!

[Im not Lost]

Hmmmm.... 2 people with gunshot wounds......

Will Jack have to decide again who lives and who dies?

Not a good day for the Rutherford's.

[DrCher]

Okay, so who dies next? Any Ana-Lucia death spoilers?

[kryss]

I don't know if I am going to be able to watch next week. In the tease for next week they show that sleeping little boy getting snatched. I just don't think I can do it.

[CantThinkUpName]

I just realized something. In future spoilers they mention people being falsely accused for the killing of Shannon. But Michael, Jin and most importantly SAYID saw what happened. So how are they going to pull that off?