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Stalker 

Mar 28, 2007 @ 11:06 am
I am pinning this final warning to ensure that it can't possibly be missed.

If you can be shown to read this thread (that is, you post in it) and you are found going elsewhere on the boards and using spoiler information which you are trying to pass off as speculation, that is a warnable/bannable offense.

Seriously, it's really unfair to other posters, and it's also really lame, because it comes off like you're cheating and trying to make yourself look like you're just a very good guesser.

Please, please stop this. I have had more problems with this during this season than during any other, and I'm determined to get it stomped down as we get closer to the end. I don't want the show ruined for other people. Please don't continue to engage in this, if you're engaging in it now. Thanks very much to the great majority of you who are careful about this.
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Fanatic 

Jun 18, 2006 @ 2:48 am
According to the Sea-Tac website, the following airlines fly out of the S-gates:

America West
Asiana
British Airways
EVA Air
Horizon Air
Korean Air
Northwest
SAS

There are some others that apparently only fly into that wing:

Alaska
American
China Airlines
United
Fanatic 

Jun 18, 2006 @ 3:33 am
Sounds like the teams that were spotted at South Term were on the 1:40 Asiana, then. That jibes with The Pilots comment that he last saw them "around 1:30 or so."


Have the early spoilers ever fit together so neatly before? I don't remember this happening -- it seems to me that there was more jiggling them to fit in the past.
Couch Potato 

Jun 19, 2006 @ 8:55 am
Racer spotting in Mauritius!

And an all female team still in the top 5!
Stalker 

Jun 19, 2006 @ 10:11 am
Damn, it's almost like they're not trying to hide anymore. But the new locations, the West to East route and now 2 female teams in the final 5?

Yeah, I'm coming to TARCON10 just on this information alone.

It seems that if there are 5 teams on June 12th, I can see it ending by June 25th at the latest.
Fanatic 

Jun 19, 2006 @ 10:40 am
Given the proximity to Kuwait, I'd say this is the leg immediately following Kuwait (confirmed arrival there on the 9th, teams arrive on Mauritius on the 12th, which doesn't look easy to get too, so add at least a full day of air travel to complete that section), and thus, there's likely 6 teams left going into Kuwait, 5 here, and thus there is likely to be three legs between Monogolia and Kuwait (one possibly being New Zealand). The dates work out well for this count, but that also means that there's only been one NEL or UberLeg to this point in Mauritius, which mimicks TAR9's order.
Fanatic 

Jun 19, 2006 @ 3:58 pm
Good news, everybody!

I decided to actually take my lunch for once and spent fifteen minutes talking to an exceedingly helpful woman at the Seattle Film & Music office -- she'd even been at the starting line!

The starting line is: Kite Hill at Gas Works Park in Seattle! (So much for my guess of Snoqualmie Falls.) Here's an aerial map of the park. Kite Hill is the roughly circular thing in the upper left-hand corner of the map. There's a sundial on top, IIRC -- my company picnic was at Gas Works last year, but I haven't been there since then.

What she said: Phil and the teams were at the top of Kite Hill; the luggage was roughly where the "trail" in "Burke Gilman Trail" is located on the map, and the cars (black Mercedes) were lined up in the parking lot close to where the red blip on the trail is. There were 13 cars and 12 (!) teams. They set it up with a fireboat shooting jets of water out on Lake Union (off to the left side of the linked map), and floatplanes taking off and landing. (Since Lake Union is, in fact, a place where planes normally land -- airport code LKE, if anyone cares -- I don't know if the planes were there specially for that.)

There were about 75 crew people and 40 crew vehicles.

It was quite rainy, though on and off, while they were filming. She expected somebody to slip while running down Kite Hill to get to their luggage, and in fact some of the crew did, but no contestants did. (Darn.)

They also did some still shots at Hamilton Viewpoint in West Seattle the day before, and "two guys and a camera" went around the city doing some "beauty shots".

She couldn't tell me anything about the teams.

After leaving the park, the teams had to find their own way to Sea-Tac, though they blocked off a number of streets and funneled them up Northlake Way to Stone Way, and they might have asked at businesses how to get to the airport.

She said all in all, the production company seemed quite happy with things, and the Seattle film people would welcome them back again any time.

I have some photocopies of permit/map pages that I'll post when I get home.

This post has been edited by jennblevins: Jun 19, 2006 @ 5:25 pm.
Channel Surfer 

Jun 19, 2006 @ 4:28 pm
jennblevins - Thanks for the information! Did she say anything about the finale being in Seattle?
Fanatic 

Jun 19, 2006 @ 4:32 pm
ccdog -- she said they were not coming back to do any more filming. (Thanks for jogging my memory -- I was dumb and didn't take an notepaper with me.)

However the date on the permit is 5/23 -- only a few days before the filming took place -- so it is possible, I suppose, that they would only file for any other permits later on.
Fanatic 

Jun 19, 2006 @ 4:57 pm
You know, there's been a lot of Victoria/Vancover start line rumors going around which, well, don't make sense. However, it is very possible to take a floatplane from those cities (2.5hr away by car), and with special landing permits, land right there outside Gasworks, which would make for rather impressive entrances for the teams, which may be where the teams stayed prior to the start line. (Mind you, as both are in Canada, I would figure the teams would be tipped off that they'd be going somewhere else, with Seattle being the obvious choice.

I'm really hoping the 12th team mention was a mistake, or possibly that extra 12th team that they did back in TAR5(6? can't remember) for one of the morning shows. Twelve teams are just a bit too much for this show.
Video Archivist 

Jun 19, 2006 @ 6:53 pm
jennblevins, thanks for the info. I'm always interested to see how helpful Film and TV Office people are, as when TAR8:FE (*shudder*) hit my town of DC, the office here was just a little helpful. Seems this race has quite the amount of spoilers and details already, and, based on them, makes me wish it was fall already.

As far as Gas Works Park, seems TPTB like familiarity.
Fanatic 

Jun 19, 2006 @ 9:33 pm
I'm really hoping the 12th team mention was a mistake, or possibly that extra 12th team that they did back in TAR5(6? can't remember) for one of the morning shows. Twelve teams are just a bit too much for this show.


If it means one fewer NELs I'm happy to take it. After a season of teams of four, I was much better at identifying and recognizing teams of two last season.
Fanatic 

Jun 20, 2006 @ 12:18 am
I don't have a scanner, so these were taken with my camera, which means they're not the greatest quality, but they should be legible:

Map of the Starting Line Area from the Film Office

Traffic Permit Information
Fanatic 

Jun 20, 2006 @ 6:15 am
Those photos were excellent jennblevins. Who needs a scanner when you have a digital camera.

Someone over at the website with the Mauritius spoiler was discounting the Seattle information. I think this is pretty conclusive proof of the starting line and the date. WRP will have to change their name if they want these sorts of things to remain a secret. It seems like the information is made readily available.

I've seen various TV programs and TV commercials filmed in the streets around where I work in Brisbane. I guess there would need to be an approval from some bureaucrat for it to take place. I was involved in approving the use of a location for the film The Great Raid. That was an experience I have no desire to repeat.

Off topic: If anyone has seen that film and has a burning desire to know where the locations were, email me and I'll provide the information. A friend of my husband's was an extra in the film.
Couch Potato 

Jun 20, 2006 @ 3:26 pm
Mongolia, Kuwait, Mauritius, and now there's an unconfirmed rumor that they're going to Finland. This sounds very promising -- fresh locations. I had wondered why they hadn't hit the Baltic countries. And if the new task guy works out, could be a move in the right direction. So much depends on casting, though, which has been lousy of late. Did the same people who cast TAR5, which to my mind was the best-cast of them all, do TARs 6 through 9?
Channel Surfer 

Jun 20, 2006 @ 3:40 pm
I saw this on TarFlies...

http://s68.photobucket.com/albums/i25/izab...oadblockwmv.flv

Very cool to see a "behind-the-scenes" look at a roadblock.

This post has been edited by ccdog: Jun 20, 2006 @ 3:40 pm.

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