24 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:22:15 -0500 0 SPOILERS and Discussion http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=655371
The Salazars interrogate Chase about CTU's plans to seize the virus; a onetime supporter sabotages Palmer's presidency.


Perhaps Gina Torres' character is in line with Sherry, and that's how they're going to reintroduce her.]]> Wed, 31 Dec 2003 22:46:55 -0500 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=655371 The Meet Market: Cafe Memento http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3044251
Has Kevin Bacon ever worked with David Strathairn...?

Why yes, IC -- in The River Wild, with Meryl Streep. (And I didn't even have to look at IMDB.com! :)

Anyhoo, thanks for the SGUH and generous comments (and emails from some of you, which I've yet to read, but will ASAP; gosh, I hate being offline for a week at a time!), and for your patience, etc., with yours truly. No, really -- thanks!

(where is the 'burgh?)

"The 'Burgh", miss sunshine, is Pittsburgh, which is where my parents live and where I just came back from visiting for the past week. Highlights: a visit to Primanti's for a sweet sausage sandwich (and chili, too!), and getting ideas for storage solutions at IKEA. (Yes, my life really is that superficial right now that those were the highlights.)

In Cafe-related news, I'm so sorry to hear your news about your friends, fwmom. That's incredibly sad.

*respectful pause*

As for your question about a bigger-capacity TiVo, fw, I've had similar thoughts recently, since I also just bought the same 40MB version that you have -- but I've decided that I'm going to keep it, and then augment it with a recordable DVD deck in a couple years after a) the electronics industry finally reaches a consensus about the next-generation DVD format, and b) the prices on such devices come down more.

Speaking of electronic devices (oh, no -- not that kind, ajra! Get your mind out of the gutter! ;), my brother's home theater system? Un. F*cking. Believable. Five MartinLogan electro$tatic $peaker$ (!!!!!) -- yup, two of their medium-size towers for surround channels! -- and absolutely primo deluxo electronics for the amp, DVD player, etc. (And a lovely Sony WEGA TV, too.) We watched the extended version of The Two Towers, and for the entire duration, I just could not believe how good it sounded, and how beautiful it looked. And I thought my setup at the Tate Estate was nice. Sheesh!

In still other Cafe-related business, to move or not to move, eh, Doctor Funk? Hard to say -- I can see all kinds of pluses or minuses either way. But I guess what it would come down to for me is that if things didn't work out, I could always move back -- so since you're askin', I'd say go for it, bay-bee! And please do keep us updated -- many of us here (oh, wait -- only me? Okay, then.) are living our dreams vicariously through you! (Also? I cut 'n' pasted what you said about depression, because it was really poignant. So... thanks!)

BTW, I've never seen Footloose, and I don't really have any desire to. (Although I'm not actively avoiding ever seeing it, as is the case with Beaches. :) Speaking of fillums, my fave of this past year -- the tragically undermarketed, underseen, eentsy-teentsy indie Raising Victor Vargas -- made New York Times critic Elvis Mitchell's Top Ten of 2003 list. Woo-hoo! [*insert umpteenth reminder to fellow Cafe patrons to please, please go rent Raising Victor Vargas here*]

*waves to gaia, a fellow Vargas aficianado, in Gay Paree*
*waves to our very own globetrotting rachem, too, just for fun*

Well, I could go on about movies and home entertainment gear and sexual identity crises all day, but for now, it's good to be back, hope to see y'all here in (what I sincerely hope for all of us is a very healthy, happy) 2004, and...

*pulls cord*
*banner unfurls from ceiling that says...*

*´¯`·.¸.· HAPPY NEW YEAR to the CAFÉ MEMENTO! ·.¸.·´¯`*]]> Wed, 31 Dec 2003 19:41:50 -0500 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3044251 Our Sweet Puffy Man-Child, Kiefer Sutherland http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=2933482 Happy New Year!!!!

Love you gals!

Love HIM!!!]]> Wed, 31 Dec 2003 20:06:57 -0500 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=2933482 24 In The Media http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=472314 Fox Homepage and hold your mouse pointer over Kiefer's face.

(It's the little pleasures that get me through the day... ;")

ETA: this doesn't work anymore. At the time, it linked to Malcom in the Middle.]]> Mon, 05 Jan 2004 14:30:30 -0500 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=472314 Unraveling Velvet: Bitterness about 24 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=2610526 Wed, 31 Dec 2003 21:54:00 -0500 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=2610526 Cast In Other Roles: Who Else Are They Working For? http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=1731173
ETA the only info on Jesse's role in this gig is that he will do "something circusy."]]> Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:37:04 -0500 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=1731173 Ratings and Scheduling http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=1936966 Mediaweek.com.

At 9 p.m., although NBC's Frasier (#1: 8.9/12) beat ABC's According to Jim (#3: 7.4/10) by 20 percent in the overnights, Jim held a considerable 28 percent advantage among adults 18-49 (Jim: 5.0/12, Frasier: 3.9/10). Jim also outdelivered the tired Dr. Crane by 435,000 viewers (Jim: 11,354, Frasier: 10.919).

On Fox, 24 ranked fourth in the overnights (6.6/ 9) but second among adults 18-49 (4.1/10). Also in the 9 p.m. hour were repeats of the WB's One Tree Hill (2.8/ 4) and UPN comedies Rock Me Baby (2.3/ 3) and Girlfriends (2.1/ 3).

In the battle of the 9:30 p.m. sitcoms, although NBC's Happy Family (#2: 7.4/10) also beat ABC's Less Than Perfect (#4: 6.2/ 9) in the overnights, Less Than Perfect bested the John Larroquette/Christine Baranski sitcom by 11 percent in adults 18-49 (4.2/10 to 3.8/ 9).

Unfortunately, the Futon Critic has stopped reporting Nielsen ratings. But based on this report, Berman may be picking up the slack in offering up 18-49 numbers--in the past, he hasn't coughed up 18-49s with any regularity. He downplays the importance of 18-49s in assessing CBS's Tuesday lineup, but the truth is that advertisers just don't pay CBS very much for older-skewing dramas, and a show like "24" is much more profitable for a network than a show like "The Guardian" for that reason.

Meanwhile, to continue the previous discussion of "Jim" vs. "24":
Maybe "Jim" beats "24" because there are lots of fat American guys who eat too many Whoppers and would like to fantasize that they could get a wife as hot as Courtney Thorne-Smith. "24" makes them feel too insecure because Kiefer Sutherland is in really good shape, and ready to beat the crap out of terrorists round the clock (well, except when severely jonesing for smack). Is that what you meant, Mr. Rulz, when you said "people aren't always what they watch?" You're saying the "Jim" viewers aren't all fat guys? Or what?

My feelings about "Jim" are best summed up by Mr. Wm. Steven Humphrey, of thestranger.com:
Another comedy premise that makes my chilidog lunch leap out of my stomach is the "Fat, Ugly Guy with the Hot Wife" sitcom. Now, I'm not denying that occasionally a fat, ugly guy--THROUGH SHEER DUMB LUCK--sometimes winds up with a hot, sexy wife. There are all sorts of reasons for this. Perhaps she's blind--or maybe retarded. But here's my point: There are dozens of sitcoms with this premise, which is statistically fawking impossible!! The worst offender is, of course, According to Jim, starring ugly, fat guy Jim Belushi and hot wife Courtney Thorne-Smith. What a waste of a sweet piece of ass! Just the thought of that blubbery whale on top of that juicy mama makes me want to BLEAAHHHHHH!

ETA: Oops, Ms. RULZ, sorry about the gender confusion. The "Louis" part confused me, I guess. As an editor, though, I still don't understand the phrase "people aren't always what they watch."]]> Thu, 08 Jan 2004 02:29:35 -0500 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=1936966 <![CDATA[5-12: "6:00 PM - 7:00 PM" 2006.03.06]]> http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3136617
Hey, we got to see Logan's Veep, Vice President Plot Device! Could it be any more obvious this is the "other guy" in the government The Man was talking about?

After Jack "died" Chase dumped Kim? Clearly, their's was a marriage of HoYay convenience.]]> Mon, 06 Mar 2006 21:13:56 -0500 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3136617 Still as Much in Love as Ever: The Non-Bitter Thread http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3114220 24 ever having a non-bitter thread and a search didn't show anything so I hope this is ok.

I'm still happy with the show. I think this season is great and while not happy with all the character storylines (Palmer) I'm enjoying 24 as much as I ever was.

Hopefully, I'm not alone in that sentiment.]]> Wed, 07 Jan 2004 21:14:35 -0500 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3114220 Reflections on All Seasons http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3113640
That is, a feeling of a tapestry of events - like a Paul Thomas Anderson film or the like - there were so many stories going on, all linked together, and occuring at the same time, but there was just so much going on.

But I think this was partly because the overlying question seemed to be "who is evil". Thus, in season 1, every scene had to be from the point-of-view of one of the five main cast members, or focus on an established bad guy. Season 2 had so many concurrent storylines, often taking place within the same building (like the bunker, or at CTU) and even when they were annoying, there was so much to watch that it felt much more like we were watching the events of one day.

Sadly, I don't see it happening this season, because at the moment it seems we have just three storylines: the action at New/Mexico, the exposition at CTU and the "political intrigue" at Palmer's.]]> Sun, 04 Jan 2004 01:05:24 -0500 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3113640