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Please see the FAQ for special BG spoiler rules.]]> Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:32:42 -0500 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3122121 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3122126 For U.S. and overseas info.]]> Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:19:10 -0500 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3122126 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3122222
So far I’m really enjoying this show. It is dark, adult and intelligent. I get the feeling the producers know exactly where they are going with the plot, which makes speculation fun.

I keep wondering why we should believe #6 when she says there are only 12 Cylon models. Why would she tell the truth? And why 12 models? Is that twelve as in the twelve Lords of Kobol? The Twelve Colonies? Or does it have a more biblical implication as in the twelve disciples? Judas was a disciple, are we to imply that ultimately one of the Cylons will betray their own kind? Does it already obliquely refer to Baltar betraying mankind?

Is Baltar a Cylon? Its improbable but it is possible. When his #6 died on Caprica, her programming could have been downloaded to him and that is why he “sees” her. Didn’t she say her essence would be transmitted to another Cylon at the moment of her death? Why did she shield him when the bomb exploded? Interesting that Boomer, another Cylon, was Baltar’s means of getting off Caprica.

How encompassing is the Cylon plan anyway? Why have a sleeper(s?) on board Galactica and not activate them during the initial assault? Couldn’t Boomer have simply given away the Galactica’s original location when they were assembling the other ships before the initial jump … or disable the FTL drive?

I wonder what happed to the original “human” Boomer anyway? Do you think she ever really existed?

How did the Cylons know, specifically, who Helo was and how/where Boomer had left him on Caprica? Did Gal-Boomer somehow unknowingly transmit the information to Cap-Boomer ? How do Cylon sleepers communicate with other Cylons?

What’s up with that Ho-lon, #6, anyway and her whole “a kiss before dieing” act? On two different occasions she’s kissed someone right before she new she was going to die. Is she cataloging them? Checking for DNA compatibility? Infecting them with tracking nanites? Just a skeezy cylon ho?

I can’t wait until Friday!!]]> Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:05:34 -0500 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3122222 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3130991
A recently converted BSG pal of mine was reading the forum threads and got confused by all the nicknames so an explanation post seemed like it might be a good idea. Just something to help people understand the show or the forums. There is no intention to convey any preferred or "correct" nickname. If it isn't listed, add it.

Pegasix? Lucylon? RoCaine? Don't have a clue what we are talking about?

General Info

• TOS - The Original Series
• TNS - The New Series
• suffix LON - (Humlon) denotes something of cylon origin
• RTFF - Rag Tag Fugitive Fleet, from TOS
• Toasters - The metal cylons
• Humlons - The human looking cylons

How to keep cylon copies straight:

• prefix CAP - (CapBoomer) denotes a copy/character originally introduced on the planet Caprica
• prefix GAL - (GalBoomer) denotes a copy/character originally introduced on the Galactica
• prefix PEGA - (PegaSix) denotes a copy/character originally introduced on the Pegasus

Other common nicknames

• Gaydar - Lt. Gaeta
• Blanders - Anders
• Lucylon/Xylon/Zenalon - Reporter D'anna Biers (Cylon)
• Doc Snarky - Doc Cottle
• TighOneOn - XO Tigh
• Starpollo - a romantic relationship between Starbuck and Apollo
• BlandBuck - a romantic relationship between Anders and Starbuck
• RoCain/Ho - Admiral Cain
• Leisure Suit Larry - Doral (Cylon)

Things we don't know for sure

• How cylons communicate
• How the cylons evolved
• What happened in the first war
• Why exactly the cylons rebelled

The best place for backstory is the recaps, but if you can't find the answer ask away.]]> Mon, 26 Sep 2005 22:44:51 -0400 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3130991 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3132129 please use this thread for 'shipper discussions.]]> Wed, 26 Oct 2005 22:50:33 -0400 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3132129 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3151229 Skippy's List and having far too much time on my hands, and on the off chance someone else wants to add to the list:

The Kara Thrace Memorial (?) List Of Things Skippy Is No Longer Allowed To Do Aboard The Battlestar Galactica:

1. Not allowed to refer to Samuel Anders as "Mr. Kara Thrace."
* Not allowed to refer to Major Adama as "Mr. Kara Thrace."
* Especially in front of his wife.
* Not allowed to suggest to Major Adama's wife that she "do the cheating frakhead one better" by joining me in the rear cargo bay after hours.
2. Not allowed to refer to Admiral Adama as "Mr. Laura Roslin."
3. Not allowed to spell Colonel Tigh's name "T-G-H" and claim "the Cylons took the I," as it is cruel and not remotely funny.
* Okay, so it's hilarious. It's still cruel.
4. Cleaning my gun in the pilots' break room is acceptable. "Cleaning my gun" in the pilots' break room is not.
* No, no matter what Captain Thrace said.
5. The following phrases are hereby banned from conversation: "budding sexuality," "necrophilia," "I hate everyone in this squadron and wish they were all dead," "sexual lubrication," "toasterfrakker," "all Marines are latent homosexuals," "all Viper jocks are blatant homosexuals," "naughty schoolteacher," "strap-on," "slut puppy," "the President's baby mama," "shag the CAG," "New Caprican loco weed," or any reference to squid.
6. Only allowed to add "in accordance with the prophesy" to the ends of my sentences if given specific permission to do so by President Roslin.
* President Roslin did not give me permission to do so.
7. Asking "How do you keep an ECO in suspense?" and walking away isn't even funny the first time.
8. Not allowed to refer to President Roslin as "Mom."
* Not allowed to refer to Admiral Adama as "Dad."
* No, not even if I am his actual son.
9. Not allowed to chew gum while flying CAP.
* No, not even if I brought enough for everyone.
10. Not allowed to suggest cannibalism as an alternative protein source.
11. President Roslin does not have "spanking privileges."
* Neither does Admiral Adama.
12. If the thought of something makes me giggle for longer than 15 seconds, I will assume that I'm not allowed to do it.
* If the thought of something makes Captain Thrace giggle for longer than 15 seconds, I will alert the CAG. Immediately.
13. Not allowed to speculate on the penis size of anyone who outranks me.
* Especially Captain Thrace.
14. While I may not actually be able to stop Captain Thrace from telling those stories about flight school, it behooves me not to appear visibly amused while she does so.
15. Colonel Tigh does not want to be called "Snookums."
* Neither does he respond favorably to "Sauly-poo," "Debbie," "Tighclops," or "Ol’ One-Eyes."
* Colonel Tigh is not Admiral Adama's "heterosexual man-spouse."
16. I have not been appointed to a secret presidential sex squad.
* Not allowed to talk about it if I had been.
17. "I've heard every possible joke about Lieutenant Gaeta's name" is not a challenge.
18. I am not a Cylon trapped in a human's body.
19. Algae is not a personal lubricant.
20. Not allowed to get shot.
21. Not allowed to use image editing software to create incriminating photos of Admiral Adama and President Roslin.
* Not allowed to use image editing software to create incriminating photos of Major Adama and President Roslin.
* Not allowed to use image editing software. Period.
22. Not allowed to steal batteries from the deck crew for "personal use."
* Not allowed to attempt to explain "personal use."
23. I am not Model #13.
24. If Tory Foster hears me referring to her as "the president's sex-retary," she is hereby authorized to hurt me.
25.Not allowed to have comm sex while flying CAP.
* Not allowed to have comm sex with someone flying CAP.
* Not allowed to have comm sex. Period.
26. Not allowed to refer to the Biers documentary as "a Cylon perv tape."
27. Not allowed to do that thing with the lollipop in President Roslin's sight, ever.
* No, not even if Captain Thrace did it first.
28. Not allowed to contact Captain Katraine via séance in the hopes she'll overrule Major Adama's orders.
* Not allowed to contact anyone via séance. Period.
29. Not allowed to lock Major Adama and Captain Thrace in a supply closet in the hope that sex will take place.
* Even if it does.
* Not allowed to lock Major Adama and Samuel Anders in a supply closet in the hope that sex will take place.
* Even if it does.
* Not allowed to lock Captain Agathon and Chief Tyrol in a supply closet in the hope that sex will take place.
* Even if it does.
* Not allowed to lock anyone in a supply closet, for any reason.
* Or tape the results.
* No, not even if it would be great for morale.
30. Not allowed to join Demand Peace!
* Not allowed to join the SFM.
31. Not allowed to antagonize the CAG.
* Not allowed to call the CAG a wanker.
* Not allowed to short-sheet the CAG's bed.
* Not allowed to attach photos of the CAG to the targets in the firing range.
* Not allowed to put the CAG's hand in warm water while he's sleeping.
* Not allowed to steal the CAG's pants.
* No, not even if Captain Thrace did it first.
32. No part of my flight suit is edible.
33. If detained by security, I do not have the right to a strip search.
34. Not allowed to shake my groove thing in CIC.
35. Not allowed to use nuggets as currency.
36. Not allowed, under any circumstances, to ask President Roslin who died and put her in charge.
37. The time has passed for the joke about the Cylon, the pyramid team, the elevator, and Ellen Tigh.
* Or any of its variants.
38. There is no such thing as "recreational gun use."
* No, not even if Captain Thrace did it first.
* Oh my gods, especially not if Admiral Cain did it first.
* Not allowed to mention Admiral Cain. Ever.
39. Captain Thrace is not a pre- or post-op ANYTHING.
40. Not allowed to utter the phrase "Save a Viper! Fly a pilot!" ever, ever again.]]> Wed, 07 Feb 2007 23:53:40 -0500 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3151229 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3123044
If the story contains spoilers for episodes that haven't aired in North America, it would be nice if you could say so clearly. But caveat lector -- I'm not going to edit posts to add warnings if they aren't provided.

Posters are not obliged to restrict themselves to positive comments. So if you're feeling sensitive, this might not be the best place to promote yourself. That said, personal attacks against particular authors aren't acceptable.]]> Wed, 09 Feb 2005 23:41:12 -0500 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3123044 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=2788897
... because I can't stop using the phrase "kicked him in the gimbals" and explaining the ref to someone without the show around takes too damn long.]]> Fri, 02 Jan 2004 01:57:26 -0500 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=2788897 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3122226 will go back and do full recaps for the first two episodes as I have time (because who needs sleep?) so thanks for your patience on that. If you're just starting with the show now, it's worth mentioning that the miniseries was recapped by Aaron (thank god) so you can catch up that way, or the DVD is rentable. And yes, it was kind of ponderous.

I really appreciate the fact that those who are ahead of the US/Canada schedule are being careful about spoiler tags; thank you so much for that. I am going to immediately be ungrateful and ask you folks to help me out a little more. If there's a problem, or a potential problem, in the spoiler topic, please let me know, because I'll probably be skimming when I go in there, and may miss something. (If you're ever torn between wanting to call my attention to something and not wanting to spoil me, that's sweet, but don't sweat it. I'll be bummed for a few minutes and move on to "I know a secret!" so it's not a big deal.)

For problems like that, or untagged spoilers elsewhere, or any other questions or concerns, posting here is usually a marginally faster way to reach me, since it skips the spam-filter, but my inbox is always open if you prefer to email.

Doing two shows is bound to cut into my goof-off time, so I may not post as frequently, but rest assured that I'm around every day. If you email me about something that isn't urgent, it might take me a little while to get back to you, so I hope you'll be understanding about that. Thanks again for all your coolitude.]]> Wed, 19 Jan 2005 05:46:43 -0500 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3122226 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3122521
Since two such question have come up in rapid succession, I'll answer them here, and then leave off:

The CIC is the combat information center, it is the room in which information about the battle is collected, and it is a principle place from which any battle will be directed; on BG it seems to also include the functions of a ships bridge, which is the location from which a ship is driven. This strikes me as very reasonable for a ship in space.

CAG stands for Commander Air Group. While the Colonial the Colonial Fleet TOE (Table of Orginization and Equipment) remains a deep, dark mystery which we might hope to solve here, in Western navies (which BG more than a little resembles) the CAG commands the embarked air wing, and is a peer of (rather than subordinate too) the skipper of the carrier.

[Edited to add: Strega, is there anyway you, or someone else, can fix that "your"? Sorry. Homonyms are my natural predator]]]> Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:01:35 -0500 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3122521